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Delving into the Plantagenet Bloodline | Documentary Idea

by Kerrie Campbell
(Adelaide, Australia)

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I have been working on my family tree and found I am a direct decendeant of the plantagenet blood line. I find it extremely interesting as my family tree contains most of the world's historical figures and some very shady characters and giving the volume of work (including all the works of fiction) out there on the plantagenet bloodline linking them to everything and anything.

I think it would be extremely interesting to trace the family tree back and delve into the past with a direct decendant. I have traced my family tree back 150 generations but at this stage i'm just getting it all down as I come across it and will research it more in depth and find out all the stories later. But I have been sharing this work with all my family and friends and they are all hanging on the 'next installment' of my investigations so it got me thinking that there is a great deal of interest in this.

You only have to look at our literature, films and the internet to see the level of interest.

My line goes back through the somerset family (my grandmother) through the house of Beaufort, Kings of England, France, Wales Scotland and Spain through to the house of Anjou through to the Merovingian and Frankish bloodlines.

It is a very interesting and quite a crazy bloodline and it seems really crazy that a normal girl from Australia has this crazy historical bloodline. I thought the documentary could start with my journey through the family tree looking at the history and tales behind each of the members of the bloodline. As I said the bloodline touches a lot of the major characters in history so it would be a very interesting journey.

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Sep 11, 2012
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What does Plantagenet mean?
by: Webmaster

Thanks for the idea, Kerrie! Can you tell us a bit more about the Plantagenet bloodline? Is that a family name?




Sep 11, 2012
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by: Kerrie Campbell

The Plantagenet bloodline goes back to Geoffrey Plantagenet, Count of Anjou and his line is responsible for the major kings of England, France and Spain.The house of Plantagenet was established in 1126 and has branches of the house of York, Lancaster and Beaufort (which is my direct bloodline).The titles that were held by the house of Plantagenet were King of England, King of Germany, Lord of Ireland,Prince of Wales,Duke of Aquitaine,Duke of Normandy,Duke of Brittany,Count of Anjou,Count of Maine,Count of Nantes,Count of Poitou,Lord of Cyprus,Plantagenet claim to France, Plantagenet claim to Jerusalem,Plantagenet claim to Sicily,Plantagenet claim to Rome,Plantagenet claim to Castile. The bloodline then can be traced back to the Merovingian bloodline through Dagobert and Pepin. There are all sorts of links into other royal families, knights templar and pharohs in the bloodline that are very interesting as described in literature such as 'holy blood, holy grail' and fiction such as the 'da vinci code'. I have traced my family tree back 150 generations and find the pattern of movement across the world very interesting and the characters within history that have affected and shaped the world extremely interesting.

Oct 20, 2012
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Hidden Plantagent Branch
by: Robert Armiger

Here is a not so well known branch of this tree that only confirms the involved in everything theory of the Plantagenents.Roger Plowden illegitimate son of Richard I KOE, begate including, Edmund Plowden most emminent lawer of his time offered Lord Chancelorship of England [declined] on religeous grounds, was instrumental in installing Stewart dynasty.Sir Edmund Plowden Earl Palatine,Captain General,Governor of New Albion Province in new world 1632.Theoretically the most powerfull title held by anyone before or since in America.I am the result of the marrige of Cecilia Anne Plowden and the [1820 Secretary of the U.S.Senate,Brig.General, and Judge].I have just realized recently my heritage and must say I am humbled to the point of shame for the little I have accomplished.Thats why I will give a symbolic name.

Nov 09, 2012
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hidden branch
by: Anonymous

Wow and that's how the plantagent bloodline got to the US and how the presidents supposedly have it in their bloodlines

Dec 05, 2012
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I also am from the house of Anjou
by: Levi

I think I missed the main link, did not see the family tree, I also am from the House of Anjou, through Uncapher, Ungerfher, Mowry, Paine, Belcher, Rains Rainsford (all in USA) Daughter of Edward Rainsford, who you should see in the family tree. wow small world.

Dec 07, 2012
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I am new at all this also
by: Levi

I only found out days ago when reading my Grandmother's family book.
Was tired when reading your page the first time and missed the names but when reading again today i see you listed them, Beaufort you must mean Joan Beaufort then. I found this tree very helpful http://tacrocker.com/ui61.htm#216 this URL link goes back even before King Faulk v "The king of Jerusalem" up to Emperor Charlemane "Charles the Great" in an broken line. You do have a good idea to make a Documentary. now working on finding out how to update all the Royal Records I hold in my hands all the papers linking up their as you do also, but how do we add our names to the Legal Pedigree so our names are listed also. Once added they send Legal papers to us. Do you know how to do it? I am trying to find out.

Dec 07, 2012
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reply to Levi
by: Anonymous

You can add your hereditary to debretts peerage thats where most of the plantagenet bloodline is not only do we go to fulk but back to Geoffrey plantagenet, the acidic bean h , Merovingian, Carolinian, Wessex, Angevin very illustrate bloodline and very much worth investigating. If you like to look at the bloodline check out my family tree , Campbell family on ancestry.com.au

Dec 07, 2012
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To all Plantagenites
by: Robert Armiger

Some good reading on this subject is ,The Plantagenet Encylopedia,an alphabetical guide to 400 years of English history,and Clash of Crowns. And Wikipedia [Philip of Cognac].There seems to have been many illegitiment children,who probibly had to be hid due to issues of succession and the Church.Some of the illegitimate rose to power regardless,and this was probibly a concern to all involved.I am sure they all knew William the Conqueror was first known as William the Bastard.A complicated family with all sorts of intrigue for a long time.

Dec 07, 2012
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More interesting facts for Robert Armiger
by: Anonymous

Hi Robert,

Yes you are right there is a lot of illegitimacy in the line and there is a great deal of intrigue with brothers killing brothers to take power. Plantagenet kings first ruled the Kingdom of England in the 12th century. Their paternal ancestors originated in the French province of Gâtinais and gained the County of Anjou through marriage during the 11th century. The dynasty accumulated several other holdings, building the Angevin Empire which at its peak stretched from the Pyrenees to Ireland and the border with Scotland. In total, fifteen Plantagenet monarchs, including those belonging to cadet branches, ruled England from 1154 until 1485. The initial branch ruled from Henry II of England until the deposition of Richard II of England in 1399. After that, a junior branch, the House of Lancaster, ruled for some fifty years, before clashing with another branch, the House of York, in a civil war known as the Wars of the Roses over control of England. After three ruling Lancastrian monarchs, the crown passed to three Yorkist monarchs, the last of whom, Richard III, was killed in battle during 1485. The legitimate male line went extinct with the execution of Richard's nephew, Edward, Earl of Warwick in 1499. However an illegitimate scion, Arthur Plantagenet, Viscount Lisle, was active at the court of Henry VIII of England. Several illegitimate lines persist, including the Dukes of Beaufort, (who are today the last male line descendants of the Plantagenet House of Lancaster).A distinctive English culture and art emerged during the Plantagenet era, encouraged by some of the monarchs who were patrons of the "father of English poetry", Geoffrey Chaucer. The Gothic architecture style was popular during the time, with buildings such as Westminster Abbey and York Minster remodelled in that style. There were also lasting developments in the social sector, such as John of England's sealing of the Magna Carta. This was influential in the development of common law and constitutional law. Political institutions such as the Parliament of England and the Model Parliament originate from the Plantagenet period, as do educational institutions including the universities of Cambridge and Oxford. The eventful political climate of the day saw the Hundred Years' War, where the Plantagenets battled with the House of Valois for control of the Kingdom of France, as both claimed House of Capet seniority. Some of the Plantagenet kings were renowned as warriors: Henry V of England left his mark with a famous victory against larger numbers at the Battle of Agincourt, while Richard the Lionheart had earlier distinguished himself in the Third Crusade; he was later romanticised as an iconic figure in English folklore.
Interestingly I have also traced this bloodline back to roman, egyptian and jewish bloodlines. It is really quite interesting the journey of this blood !!

Feb 06, 2013
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by: Tony Harries

Like your idea, but could be time consuming. I'm currently tracing my family back, and on a first draft I include a lot of Plantagenets. Always interested to hear about them.

May 23, 2013
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Plantagenet documentary
by: Robert Fredericks

I feel that the Plantagenet Alliance based in the UK would be good to talk to about the development of such a documentary. They are the group of collateral descendants of King Richard III who are now involved in a legal battle for the re-burial of the King's remains at York Minster. I understand that they are in direct contact with a number of senior academics and historians and may have much information that may be of use. You can contact them via this website:

kingrichardcampaign.org.uk

Jul 04, 2013
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Blessed Margaret
by: Debra

I am very interested in the Plantagenet family line because I am also a descendent through Ursula Pole, and her daughter Hannah. My ancestors came to America with Luke Bromley.

Jul 04, 2013
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reply to Robert Fredricks
by: kerrie campbell

Hi Robert
Thanks for the info I will definitely contact them

Jul 07, 2013
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Also from the Plantagenet Bloodline
by: Brian

My grandmother worked nonstop doing our family tree and completed it before her death in 97. Through her research she has traced our family back to the Plantagenet bloodline and yes also some very shady characters

Sep 16, 2013
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Great granddaughter 26 times
by: Karen

I too have just found that I am directly related to King Richard III, as he is my 26th Great Grandfather. Is there anyone who can assist me in more family knowledge?

Sep 17, 2013
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reply to Karen
by: kerrie campbell

Hi Karen

What type of information are you after

Oct 31, 2013
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Plantagenet ancestors
by: Karen Susan

My daughter and I have been enjoying researching our Plantagenet ancestors, who go back to Charlemag, early Angol Saxon kings ( ex. Egbert) down through Edward III directly. Then they branch off into three of his sons lines: primarily John of Gaunt (grand-daughter Margaret Beaufort) and Lionel of Antwerp, as well as the Yorks, through Edmund of Langley. Elizabeth Woodville, queen of Edward the 1V was my 16th great grandmother and her eldest son, Thomas Grey was my 15th great grandfather. Is anyone else connected in this way?

Oct 31, 2013
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reply to Karen Susan
by: kerrie campbell

That is my blood line John of Gaunt is my 20th great grandfather. The bloodline goes back to Geoffrey Plantagenet, William the conqueror, Vikings such as Rollo, the Capietian, Charlemagne, Frankish and Normandy bloodline. The blood runs through all of todays royal houses, in fact the queen is ny 22nd cousin !!!!

Nov 08, 2013
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Roger Plowden
by: Steve Greene

Karen, my uncle through Ancestry.com has traced our bloodline to Roger Plowden 1178 supposed illegitimate son of King Richard I. I can't find much on the web "confirming" Roger Plowden as Richard "The Lionheart" son. Only Philip of Congnac illegitimate son is listed. There's information saying Roger "accompanied King Richard in the Crusade to the holy land" but nothing on him being a son. In your post on Oct 20, 2012 you added Roger as the illegitimate son. Wondering where there is information confirming he is a son. My blood line descends Richard I through Roger Plowden, Phillip Plowden to the Oakley line starting in 1230 all the way to my grandmother, Eleanor Oakley. It's interesting because I read an author that delves into the "conspiracy" theories relating to "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" and Dan Brown's books. Being in this blood line going to Eleanor of Aquitaine and King Richard is fascinating to say the least. My Uncle is named Richard and is happily homosexual. Also his mother (My Grandmother)is named Eleanor who we grandkids have always compared her to Katharine Hepburn....who played Eleanor of Aquitaine in the movie "The Lion In Winter". So, 800 years later history repeats itself in the Eleanor gives berth to a gay son named Richard. I often say, humorously, that if the Merovingian "theories" are true, I, like you, might be related to Jesus himself.

Nov 08, 2013
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Comment above meant for kerrie Campbell
by: Steve Greene

I typed Karen above meaning Kerrie.

Nov 08, 2013
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Roger Plowden uncertain ancestry
by: Robert Armiger

In an earlier post I claimed a hidden Plantagent branch.I must now retract the contention of a connection of Roger Plowden to Richard I as his father.I have done some research into the sources of this history and I must now say no facts support this.This pedigree appears most often in Ancestry.com.and its source I believe can be traced to a publication[The Oakley Ancestral History The Long Island Branch]1996 by David Arthur Oakley-Arthur Oakley and Marlene Oakley Scow.This publication based mostly on the work of the authors father states"The Oakley Pedigree for the person on page 291[chart 10], French King Geoffroy I born about 970 AD, is the last proven King on the Oakley line of which the Medieval History Department in Salt Lake will verify as correct and accurate ancestry on the Ancestral File[latest version Jan 1996 4.17].I have talked to the LDS Medieval History Dept and this cannot be confirmed.I have talked to David Arthur Oakley and he can not confirm.Unless the LDS have some secret unique acess to British history this must remain UNCONFIRMED.I must hereby disavow any ancestral connection between Plowden and Plantagent.If anyone can substantiate the claim please post.

Dec 28, 2013
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Looks like a challenging idea….I will also have to add to the mix here on being related….if you are in need of songs let me know .Eric
by: Eric Apoe

Looks like a challenging idea….I will also have to add to the mix here on being related….if you are in need of songs let me know .Eric

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Mar 17, 2014
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The Lionheart's Descendant
by: Ryan

I'm a descendant of Henry II through his daughter Matilda, his son John, and also Richard. I'll tell you why: we all know he had an illegitimate son, Philip of Cognac, well when my great auntie unearthed our family tree via birth, marriage, and death records, we came across someone recognised as Philip FitzRoy (which would have been the surname of Richard's illegitimate son). Well, contrary to some beliefs, Philip wasn't murdered by King John. He had two sons (one died in childbirth), the other being my ancestor called Geoffrey. The Philip Fitzroy in my ancestry died around 1220 in a place described as Yorkshire. For about 5 generations, we have ancestors with the surname FitzRoy (Son of a King). Assuming this is legit (still a few pieces of paper and a pipe roll locked away, but looks old enough), then only my line from my great-great-great grandfather (who was an only child) is descended from the Lionheart. My cousins and my dad's brothers and sisters.

What's funny is my dad is the spitting of Henry II, and like Richard, I am well above average height (6'7), although I have more traits of Henry the Young King...but I have a natural ability with a sword and understand military tactics and politics.

We could go public, and I'd happily do a DNA test with Richard the Lionheart's heart (now a powder), but we have nothing to gain except a proud pedigree.

--Ryan

Mar 23, 2014
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Not Exactly Correct
by: Evelyn

It has been proven that Elyas de Richmond born in 1327 was not married to Elizabeth de Burgh, descendant of the Plantagenets. So, if you are claiming kinship to the Plantagenets through this connection, sorry to say, it is incorrect. Have done the research myself...Lots of incorrect information out there...

Mar 23, 2014
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Richard III's great-grandchild?
by: Ryan

Karen,

Hate to say this, but you are not a direct descendant of Richard III.
Richard III had 1 legitimate son, Edward of Middleham, Prince of Wales who died at around age 10. His illegitimate children John, Katherine, and Richard all died without any issue. Katherine...she might have have one child but he/she would have be denied the Plantagenet identity so as to protect them against Henry VII. But, it would have been recorded somewhere.
Needless to say, no-one is a great-x-grandchild of Richard III. All 4 of his kids had no children.

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Im also a direct descendant
by: daniel smith

hey my name is daniel smith, im a direct desecendent of the Plantagenet dynasty as well, Ive done some research of my own and would love to help you find out more about our family. Please let me know danielmsmith777@gmail.com

May 23, 2014
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Me too
by: Leah

I'm also of the Plantegenet line on both my mother and father's side. You still thinking of doing the doc? I. In the USA.

Jun 19, 2014
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Richard III
by: Anonymous

Richard III and Queen Ann Neville had a son that they kept under top secret from England as he faired he would be killed by his uncle his sons named also Richard was at the battlefield the night before it I am the true Plantagenet Bloodline

Jun 19, 2014
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Richard III
by: Hamish

Richard III and Queen Ann Neville had a son that they kept under top secret from England as he faired he would be killed by his uncle his sons named also Richard was at the battlefield the night before it I am the true Plantagenet Bloodline

Jun 26, 2014
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Merovingians
by: Anonymous

I traced my direct lineage to the Merovingians. It irritates me highly the general consensus that they are "evil" OR that there are no modern descendants. Nonsense! I am most definitely alive and well, and am far from evil. I also share many unusual traits of the bloodline. Should I be ashamed? No! I am proud of my ancestors. Good or bad, they are my blood, my family, my heritage.

Jun 27, 2014
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My People! Another Distant Cousin.
by: Avery Kate Hardin

Hello all:

First, my name is Avery Kate Hardin and I live in Texas. Currently I have someone working in London. He's researching some more documentation and hopefully paintings and anything else to give us a more personable, well-rounded view of where we come from and what makes us who we are today. Though our family hired the services of a genealogist whose data was impeccable and engrossing, I'm hoping with him in London, he'll have some luck. Of course, more than willing to share what I have so far and what else I can find. Even speaking with y’all tonight has put a few pieces together.

Kerrie, I don’t have the documents in front of me, but I’m directly related from Edward IV and Elizabeth Wayte’s son Arthur Plantagenet, who as an acknowledged illegitimate child was part of his father’s court, moved for a while to his half-sister’s place (queen consort Elizabeth of York) and then headed back to the king’s castle when Henry VII his nephew. I’ve been curious about this: I thought the takeover by the Tudors over the Plantagenet was violent or at least one worthy of some really uncomfortable family get-togethers (kidding), but what got Arthur able to fit in with the new monarchy? Now we know where we get our natural charm.

 Robert Armiger and Kerrie: I’m glad that you brought up William the Conqueror because this was one of the details pointed out to me by our genealogist. He told me he included what he had uncovered, but even as the links I’ve found tonight have set, royal lineage so clearly defined was hard to come by from the 15th century on back. Your explanation fills in the gaps I couldn’t make out and I’d like to explore that. The names and dates sound familiar and once I get home, the Magna Carta sticks out but I need to look into that.

 Arthur also was involved in the military.

 One thing I’m proud of about him is his creation of the “Lisle Letters”, a compilation of other 3,000 letters spanning almost 7 years between he and his wife while he was off in Calais. They exist to this day in the British Nat’l Record Office and have been published recently. They are widely considered to be one of the most valuable resources into the inner workings of royalty in that time. Not because he was verbose and boastful; he loved talking about the ordinary things happening on a common day. A tongue-in-cheek exchange between he and Thomas Cromwell calling him a doormat for not having the cajones to make the big decisions and everyone seeing who wears the pants in the family. Another spoke of Henry VIII’s wife Jane Seymour crazy pregnant cravings for quail, and how he’d chase them around the property and get her fed as her mood swings were driving him a bit stir crazy.

 So, I’m looking more for that kind of tidbit: we can see the paintings and the famous sites where our ancestors once lived, but would anything beat finding one of their own journals? 

Brian and Kerrie: spot-on about our ancestors’ rather…. colorful lives and at times pretty shady dealings but hey - it’s fascinating. Here’s one for you - for those of you who have done at least a preliminary background search on births, deaths, etc? I kid you not: I saw so many of our ancestors dying in a place called the Tower of London that I thought it was a HOSPITAL! Imagine my surprise…. and how he got sent there by an obviously cankerous Henry VIII.

Then he gets over it, sends Arthur a letter in his Tower of London jail cell with a diamond ring… and poor Viscount, after months of stress and all his friends in the court being executed around him and knowing he was going to face the same fate…. literally dies of joy right after getting it, there in the cell.

And one other bit.

There was an anonymous post here titled “Merovingians” from just a week ago and I wanted to copy it and hopefully get your attention and talk about it further.

 When I read the post you left before, I was confused, first assuming you were just another hothead with a laptop. But I’d never heard of your lineage before, and I wanted to learn more:

“I traced my direct lineage to the Merovingians. […] [T]he general consensus that they are "evil" OR that there are no modern descendants. Nonsense! I am most definitely alive and well […] I also share many unusual traits of the bloodline. Should I be ashamed? No! I am proud of my ancestors. Good or bad, they are my blood, my family, my heritage.”



So, I looked up where you come from (which without your ancestors there’d be no us). And frankly, as I know we’ve got about 1% of shared DNA, you were completely justified in the tone and frustration in your reply. It came out of nowhere and I’m just as floored. 

We may laugh at some of the bizarre things our ancestors did or said or even conquered, but some of the things I discovered were difficult for me to understand (you’ll find more everyone when you dig a bit deeper, but we’ll probably not be genetically related at that point down the line) and I could kick myself for allowing myself to feel shame or even anger at some things. But then I realized that in a different time, place, with vastly different societal expectations and cultural norms, would I be so different? Would anyone? 

So, I found an article that I hope shows you we’re happy to get a fuller picture of every facet of what makes this little group bound together.



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/
merovingians/merovingios_02.htm

Jun 29, 2014
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I wonder
by: Ryan

You may have Plantagenet ancestry, but none of you have Richard the Lionheart as a direct ancestor (25th great-grandfather) through his son Philip FitzRoy, who (I'll explain again) stayed in England after selling his lordship of Cognac.

I still have the best ancestor of the Plantagenets.

And, yes...I can back it up. And I'd be careful if anyone posts a skeptic reply, because it'd be more believable that I'm a direct descendent of the Coeur De Lion than an American having a Plantagenet line.

Question to all the Americans here: Why do you Americans in general insist on trying to be English but will preach about how great being an American is?
You can't have it both ways...

Jun 29, 2014
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Response to 'I wonder' post
by: Anonymous

You make interesting comments about your descendency from Philip De Cognac, even though virtually all accepted views from professional, highly educated historians (analysing contemporary accounts such as Latin texts written by Alphonse de Poitiers), account that he had no issue.

Of course, I concede that there may be information available only to you, that no one else has ever had the chance to evaluate. I would suggest then that to be taken as credible, your evidence should be submitted openly for peer review - a good place to start would be www.pacompany.net as I understand that the Alliance will shortly be announcing an extensive research project focusing on the validation of those with apparent Plantagenet ancestry.

Lastly, many of those later generations who actually know of their Plantagenet heritage (which was of course originally French, not English), do indeed now live in the USA, as well as Canada, Australia and South Africa (among other places).

I (and I am sure others) are looking forward to seeing your evidence.

Jun 30, 2014
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Much In Common
by: Marcie Caudell

We must be related! Reading your article was like reading a summary of my twenty years of genealogy research.
I hope you succeed in making your film. Best of Luck to you!

Aug 29, 2014
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document delving into Plantagent
by: Jc

It is absolutely fabulous. This is what makes life so good - to know the links.

I would love to see the follow ups.o

Nov 08, 2014
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Last male line descendants
by: Bernard

Geoffrey Plantagenets illegitimate son Hamelin Plantagenet, by marriage Earl Warrene. His descendants the Warren-Plantagenets in Cheshire. An illegitimate male line were found in the Woodplumtom area west of Preston. After the death of the last Plantagenet King Richard 111, and the rise of the Tudors, they changed their name to Wareing/Waringe to hide their origin. They were possibly the last male line Platagenets.

Nov 10, 2014
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cool
by: Anonymous

Sounds like of idea .many people are descendents of the plantagenet kings including myself .think it would be a good but very long documentry about one of the most interesting families in history.also have been wondering on average how many descendents do they have alive today from the British line

Nov 10, 2014
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cool
by: Anonymous

Sounds like of idea .many people are descendents of the plantagenet kings including myself .think it would be a good but very long documentry about one of the most interesting families in history.also have been wondering on average how many descendents do they have alive today from the British line

Nov 28, 2014
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Also related via my grandmothers side
by: Anonymous

I also have found I am a relative of the Plantagenets. I still have to check again but it is on my grandmother's side. I live in Wales and this was a great surprise. I've gone back to 950 on the Ancestry site. Wow, I'm Royal.

Nov 30, 2014
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Plantagenet ancestry--you and 150 million
by: LCH

150 million americans are descended from European Royals....including my lineage. Blood disorder Porphria was passed from Edward I and beyond
cheerio

Dec 17, 2014
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Eleanor Plantagenet
by: Keith Wooodard (Neilson-Simmons)

Eleanor Plantagenet was my 26th great grandmother on my Paternal grandmother's side. I guess that makes me a direct descendant in some respects. I discovered her ancestral connection with my own on Ancestry.com. I also discovered that she came from an ethnic Jewish connection as well. Please reach out to me at kwits@comcast.net or look my data up on Ancestry.com.

Shalom,
Keith Woodard

Jan 01, 2015
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John Nevils/Nevill/Neville
by: Anonymous

My ggggg grandfather of Bulloch Co Georgia USA is direct descendants of the wild and famous Nevilles of England. Statesboro Georgia has hundreds of these Nevilles buried under the 1St Baptist Church of Stateaboro Georgia. I believe Statesboro must have been Tory Sympathizers and hated the Nevilles since many of them fron Bulloch Co Ga were Revolutionary War soldiers and patriots. Wise families interemarried into Neville family. They are buried under church also. I think its horrible deed of Bulloch Co Ga.

Jan 26, 2015
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Plantagenet Entries in My Tribal Tree
by: Kim Thigpen

1. d' Auvergne, Comte Bernard II Plantapilosa (0840 - 0886)
2. Plantagenet, Anne (1439 - 1476)
3. Plantagenet, Anne (b.1490)
4. Plantagenet, Anne 'of Gloucester' (1383 - 1438)
5. Plantagenet, Duchess Anne (1439 - 1476)
6. Plantagenet, Duke Norman Geoffrey
7. Plantagenet, Eleanor (1162 - 1214)
8. Plantagenet, Keng Henry II Curtmantle (1133 - 1189)
9. Plantagenet, King Earl Prince Edmund Edward Crouchback (1244 - 1296)
10. Plantagenet, King Edward I Longshanks (1239 - 1307)
11. Plantagenet, King Edward I....
12. Plantagenet, King Edward II (1284 - 1327)
13. Plantagenet, King Edward II (1284 - 1327)
14. Plantagenet, King Edward II.. (1284 - 1327)
15. Plantagenet, King Edward III (1312 - 1377)
16. Plantagenet, King Edward III.. (1312 - 1377)
17. Plantagenet, King Edward IV (1442 - 1483)
18. Plantagenet, King Henry III
19. Plantagenet, King Richard III (1411 - 1460)
20. Plantagenet, Knight Duke Earl John. (1340 - 1398)
21. Plantagenet, Mary
22. Plantagenet, Queen Princess Elizabeth (1466 - 1503)
23. Plantagenet, Thomas of Woodstock (1355 - 1397)
24. Plantagenet Anjou, Count Duke Geoffrey IV Le Bon (1113 - 1151)
25. Plantagenet of Grosmont, Earl Henry (1300 - 1360)
26. Plantagenet/Lancaster, King Edward III... (1312 - 1377)
27. Plantagenet/York, Duchess Elizabeth (1444 - 1502)
28. Plantapilosa / Plantevelue, Bernard II 'Hairyshoot' (0841 - 0886)
bkthigpen@gmail.com

Jan 26, 2015
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Proof of Plantagenet Bloodline
by: Kerrie Campbell

Hi All,

There have been a few of you asking for proof of my plantagenet bloodline. I appear in the 2015 edition of 'Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage' and my family entry clearly traces all the way back to Geoffrey Plantagenet.

Jan 28, 2015
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Jacquetta Luxembourg's great grand daughter marries into Robinson line in America
by: Anonymous

Found the link through the Sommersets to my Robinson line as well. When Ann Savage married a Jon Robinson. Ann Savage daughter of Elizabeth Sommersett, daughter of Mary Wydeville,daughter of Jacquetta Luxembourg. You can find me at donnamarinabayarea@hotmail.com

Feb 28, 2015
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Planta Genista "spig of broom"
by: A. Plantagenet

This was Geoffrey Count of Anjou's nickname. One of two explanations for this. It was either because he always wore a sprig of it in his bonnet or because he planted it en masse to improve his hunting covers on his land. Maybe both but there is also a more scholarly reasoning which may have some substance too but is rather too dull to explain here.
Lord Arthur Plantagenet Bastard son of England as he was known and fully recognized as, is the connection to my families claim to fame. He was the son of King Edward IV and his mistress of three years Mrs. Elizabeth Lucy nee Wayte. He was not married to Elizabeth Woodville at this point so in todays terms "no harm done" and why not? Arthur was fully recognized in court and was accepted and educated there.He became, in time, a very good friend and sporting companion to Henry the VIII. He married Edmund Dudley's widow, Elizabeth Grey 6th baroness L'isle.Elizabeth L'isle and Edmund Dudley;s son John was 1st Duke of Northumberland. My husband's family are born and bred for generations in this part of the UK so this connection too, is very important to him.
The daughter from this union of Arthur and Elizabeth married Sir Francis Jobson who is our direct descendant to this day and the surname is still Jobson. Therefore we still have a direct blood line from Edward IV of England running in our veins. Proud to be still British!! For those of you who argue that the Plantagenets were French I would ask you to remember that the borders were very blurred and moveable back then. The women of the royal families were used in marriages as barter to amalgamate countries and thrones. Armies were raised to plunder neighbouring lands and defend territories gained. They were fascinating but bloody times.

Feb 28, 2015
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